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Post by rotherham on May 19, 2018 21:48:40 GMT
I really enjoy Professor David Wilson's analysis of a serial murderer. He points out that most start in their late 20s, in their local area and almost always stick to their own m.o.
Using this as a starting point. We know the police views on Peter Tobin, Levi Belfield and John Cannan, but what about others such as Kiernan Kelly, Colin Ireland and Michael Lupo?
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2018 22:08:17 GMT
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Post by rotherham on May 19, 2018 22:11:57 GMT
Mark Rountree (now called Mark Evans) is an interesting person. I believe something snapped in his mind. Coincidentally he committed his murders in Bradford at the same time as Peter Sutcliffe.
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2018 22:24:02 GMT
Mark Rountree (now called Mark Evans) is an interesting person. I believe something snapped in his mind. Coincidentally he committed his murders in Bradford at the same time as Peter Sutcliffe. I can't say really, but I have his file and from memory, he seemed quite determined. Like he was just getting up each day and trying to figure out how he could get his next victim. Theres probably a lot more in his background that would shed light on whether he snapped etc. |
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2018 22:33:43 GMT
There are quite a few cases where people kill more than one person and i'm just realising how hard it is to find them, which is sort of deliberate really. It frustrates me that people look for kill counts or child murders or murder weapons. Thats why that sort of search is not in place. Next to Roundtree in the listings is Natale Granato, are far more mundane case even though brutal. www.blackkalendar.nl/content.php?key=25432#browseBy forcing things to be taken into perspective they become far more balanced. Work that focusses solely on serial killers makes lesser cases less seems less important. I just read about the Board Barn murders in Real Life Crimes and it shocked me: www.blackkalendar.nl/content.php?key=12297&name=Philip%20JenningsBut it really is endless. Even thinking about it bobbles my mind. As a judge recently said in an ongoing case, the London au pair case, Sophie Lionnet (i think its still ongoing), truth is stranger than fiction. I have my own saying which goes along the lines, 'You cant make this up', with variants that include foul expressions. |
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Post by rotherham on May 19, 2018 22:34:03 GMT
Do you have more of an interest in less wel known such as Robert Sartin from Sunderland ?
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2018 22:46:29 GMT
 Professor David Wilson always struck me as an odd case as he seemed to have got his credentials from being a prison governor, which is a fair and reasonable route, but I always think twice when reading work by people that reached such heights by hard graff init. His professorship always struck me as an accolade that you might give a footballer who came from the same town the university is in. I preffer work by people that went in with accademic qualifications and spent years doing the thinking from the bottom up and are versed in the philiosphies, law and human science disipline as a foundation. THat is the basis of academia. Maths is a good foundation. I imagine that many of his deductive theories are based on his hard graft in the prisons, which is a bit like the mathematition who prooved 1 = 2 with thousands of lines of calculus which included an obscure note in the margin that 'assumed based on footnotes elsewhere that such as true', and continued. THe assumption of course being the missing link between the equations on both sides balancing. Im more of a Sherlock Holmes man myself and he strikes me as a bit of a Lastrade. Netherless, Fabian of the yard is a favourite in the uncut diamond department. |
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Post by rotherham on May 19, 2018 22:54:43 GMT
I wonder if there are amateur cold case enthusiast groups in the UK ? Something I would like to do in my spare time as well as metal detecting.
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2018 23:13:22 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2018 23:17:26 GMT
I wonder if there are amateur cold case enthusiast groups in the UK ? Something I would like to do in my spare time as well as metal detecting. Possibly. The problem is that in most cases there really is only 1-4 people that could ever crack the case, and its usually not the person that wants to be sherlock holmes. I dont think about it much, but I think there is some pressure for people to clear their conscience. |
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Post by rotherham on May 19, 2018 23:21:46 GMT
The Stephen Lawrence and Michael menson cases were high profile and show how wrong investigations can go.
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2018 23:40:07 GMT
The Stephen Lawrence and Michael menson cases were high profile and show how wrong investigations can go. looks like I have not written those up for Michael menson , looks like there weer three of them. But if it was three blokes that set fire to a person in a phone box then, yeah, thats pretty evil. |
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Post by rotherham on May 20, 2018 0:06:04 GMT
I think it takes a lot to murder someone. usually it's with either an abnormal mind, heat of the moment (red mist) or a drunken / drugged state.
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2018 0:11:01 GMT
I think it takes a lot to murder someone. usually it's with either an abnormal mind, heat of the moment (red mist) or a drunken / drugged state. Well, maybe the answer to that question is hidden in the volumous lines contained on these sites? A good deal of drivers done seem to find it takes alot to kill someone. Dangerous and careless drivers top my list of methods that are well above serial killers. |
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Post by ayrshireman on Aug 9, 2018 15:48:02 GMT
I do not rate Wilson, and find him a rather pompous media junkie to put it bluntly. Have watched his programmes, read a couple of books of his and have always been underwhelmed. His 'definite book' on serial killers was a bog standard work, with far better books out there. I think he likes/loves the sound of his own voice and intellect. Never shys away from telling us just how 'top' he is. And parading his credentials, as the poster earlier alluded to.
I can remember correcting him on Twitter (very politely btw) regarding errors he made on a TV documentary regarding the horrific David McGreavy case from 1973. Facts I found easily off the t'internet, by reading articles and accessing old newspapers. Four years later, I am still awaiting a reply. Two people who twittered him within seconds of my post, gushing about him, got replies.
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