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Post by phillips on Feb 3, 2020 21:48:30 GMT
Hello all I know it was a long time ago in the 30's but if there's any truth to this it should be out in the open. I have been researching family for the last year and I have been passed down a book from family that I never even new about. I am not related to Frederick Murphy. The hanging of Frederick Murphy www.britishexecutions.co.uk/execution-content.php?key=578&termRef=Frederick%20George%20MurphyI think Frederick Murphy was really innocent, Frances Rosina Keen got him hung. she was the witness in the case. This book will shed some light on other unsolved murders too but not solve them. Myself after reading the book I think it could have been Mr Phillips or Frances Rosina Keen or maybe they both done the murder. Its a short book you could get though it in a evening if your a good reader Let me know what you think. The book link dannyphillips.000webhostapp.com/The book is in 2 parts and is in pdf so its ipad friendly they mite take a minute or 2 to load.
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Post by phillips on Feb 4, 2020 17:02:41 GMT
Here is a story about this case, Link thought I would add it.
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2020 2:54:18 GMT
Yes, looks interesting. I don't have the time to digest either the case or your reference to him being stitched up, it it certainly sounds consistent at face value. I will be able to consider it more when I get round to it, in some years to come. But it does remind me of the case of Frederick Field www.britishexecutions.co.uk/execution-content.php?key=568&termRef=Frederick%20Herbert%20Charles%20FieldHe was connected with an earlier murder and then went on to commit another murder. Or Michael Copeland who famouly stated : 'Murder Seems To Follow Me Around, but I am innocent' www.blackkalendar.nl/c/4661/Michael%20CopelandThere is a very interesting case, but I cant find it, where a man was convicted of a shooting, it was when someone came to reposess his farm I think, but the main witnesses against him were on the jury and whilst in Broadmoor he claimed that he was innocent and had been played by these people that gave evidence against him. So, I look forward to seeing out how the Frederick Murphy bears out in this light. But as I have not read anything, I simply cant imagine anything right now.
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Post by historian on Feb 5, 2020 17:06:32 GMT
Murphy was charged with the murder of Kate Peck known as "Carbolic Kate". He was acquitted as there was insufficient evidence.
On May 14th 1937 the body of Rosina Field a prostitute was found in the cellar of a shop where Murphy worked as a cleaner. He denied the murder saying that he had found the body and moved it out of view of staff. He was found guilty.
It is recorded that Murphy admitted to both murders in the condemned cell.
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Post by phillips on Feb 5, 2020 19:32:32 GMT
Thanks for your replies. Historian where did you find this info, (It is recorded that Murphy admitted to both murders in the condemned cell).
The shop was my Granddads shop, Murphy was an odd job man that became a shoe maker, and before that a fireman on a ship.
Did you read the story? there's so much corruption going on there with the police that arrested him. the witness Frances Rosina Keen her dad and granddad was police men and as corrupted as they come.
Frances Rosina Keen was my Nans sister, she burnt to death 6 children there would have been 7 but my Nan pulled William Keen of the fire. there all in an unmarked grave.
Please use the book and learn all you can about Rosina Keen, was Harley, the witness.
you will be sick at some of the things that happened in the book and all the corruption and killings. the police could have had any story they wanted made up, not the sort of people you say no to.
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Post by historian on Feb 6, 2020 12:38:30 GMT
Hi
The shop in Islington Green was called HARDINGS WHOLESALE WAREHOUSE.. Although he confessed to both murders in the condemned cell he then said that police had concocted all the evidence against him.. Frances Keen told the Court that she had seen Murphy and Rosina Field go into the shop together after 10.30 on three occasions. It was said in Court that Frances Keen had intercourse with Murphy in the shop on May 12th and had left her shoes there. Murphy confirmed this, so there was some concern that a prosecution witness was in fact somehow involved.
There has been very little published about the case but you can find the story in the following publications.
True Detective October 2016. (A full account) Master Detective August 2000 True Detective June 2018 (pg48). small story)
The story is also covered in the book "HANGED AT PENTONVILLE by Steve Fielding and printed by the History Press.
If you cannot get copies let me know and I will e-mail you the stories if I can.
I support Miscarriages of Justice and write about cases going back to 1800. I am only to aware of the corruption that has blighted our legal processes over the past two centuries.
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Post by phillips on Feb 6, 2020 14:12:09 GMT
I have been researching this for a year, and have herd HARDINGS before the shop was opened in 1910 by Thomas Hall and I think it was called HARDINGS when it first opened. in the 30s it was called Osborn John House Furnishers I have had this confirmed by Islington Library, in the 60s it was still owned by the Hall family and was called Beaumont Beds. I don't no about now but in the 90s the shop was a Pizza Hut and its numbers was 77 and 78 its been made in to 2 shops. you can not believe everything you read in a news paper, you should no this. Thank you very much for the links I will look in to them. Frances Keen was renting a room aboth this shop but not to live there, she was put on the streets at kings cross by her dad at the age of 13 she was a hooker Murphy had something wrong with his you no what after doing Frances Keen. and the girl that was killed was on her ground.
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Post by Admin on Feb 6, 2020 20:02:23 GMT
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Post by Admin on Feb 6, 2020 20:03:30 GMT
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Post by phillips on Feb 6, 2020 22:10:25 GMT
Damn I think I have been knocked lol, I also red it in a news paper article on the case, so at some point it must have been called Osborn. Thank you very much for sharing the picture. I have just sent it to my dad to see if he recognizes it.
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