Brian Tevendale / Sheila Garvie

Hi Historian

Tevendale did indeed die on that date, though he (and Sheila Garvie)had long been released by then.
According to the second link below, Sheila Garvie passed away in November 2014. A week after turning 80.
It also reports how the infamous farmhouse was (at the time) up for sale.

www.heraldscotland.com/news/12524347.brian-tevendale-killer-who-famously-murdered-his-lovers-husband/

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/angus-mearns/473935/mearns-murder-house-goes-on-the-rental-market-after-failing-to-sell/#:~:text=Tevendale%2C%20who%20was%20born%20in,in%20her%20hometown%20of%20Stonehaven.

.... sounds fascinating .... no idea what it means though ....

What do u do for a case where the 'Not Guilty' means the case is, in effect, unsolved .... ?

Matthew:)

thanks LR ....

another group I can't find is where do the "murder & suicide" cases go e.g. Michael Ryan (1987) Hungerford ....

m:)

I deliberatly dont include murder/suicide. Unless its doubtful. there is a case that psrings to mind but I cant find it. Man commits suide shortly after girl fround dead.

But cases like Michael Ryan I dont include.

Its as much by chance as anything else, but I prefer the site to lean towards the judicial implications of homicide and not the glorification of it. This is significant. Thats why there are pictures of prisons at the top of the qite. The subliminal message is that if you murder someone you go to jail. Of course, murder suicide is i=usally more dramatic and might incite a person to do just that. I can see younf people wanting to do a columbine themselves after reading the case. They are less likely to do so if they read that their favourite murderers died from colon cancer 35 years after their great dead in a small concrete chamber. As such, there is a claim to excluding them on moral principle. Further, there is not case on them other than an inquest. You cannot say that Michael Ryan murdered these people. He might have manslaughtered them.

Its something that often bugs me, but I am happy with it as it helps me to defferenitate the site from ghouls that just want blood and gore and pain etc and have no interest in the judical factors and the force of law.

The Greeks would actually remove all trace of murderers from history, that was how they did it. This site does the opposite, its like a Pannini sticker album of murderers. But at least we can exclude such people that consider murder suicide as a way to notoriety after looking at this site.

Prison is a horrible place, and in deterence that should be communicated.

THe only legitimate people to benefit from such cases woule social workers etc that would try to figure out why they did it.

Also, beyond Michael Ryan there are countless other cases that are of no notoriety in their own right. Men that kill their wifes and then commit suicide. So in sum total I dont see it as appropriate.

Its something I often think about though because you might have thought I could easily do it.

'murder & suicide'

I suppose my argument would be - especially the old cases - that there was an inquest that recorded that 'Smith murdered his wife and committed suicide' - so it was a judicial process - it was officially recorded ....

I never approached the subject from a moral/philosophical POV - it was the lists, reconciling to the Official Stats. etc., rather like being interested in football or cricket stats .... a sense of history - something to be recorded ....

e.g. list of policeman murdered on duty .... to me, and its just my opinion, of course; it would seem to me not complete to leave a policeman off because his killer c/suicide ....

Matthew:)