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Post by roachpole4 on Mar 21, 2017 12:39:08 GMT
Clive was not asked to go to the river as stated..............he was asked to go look at some rabbits in a hen run by the side of the Leeds/Liver pool canal....he went over the swing bridge at Dockfield, Shipley and the bastard George Robinson murdered him.
I hope this clears up a little false reporting.
I know as I was his schoolboy friend and we both went to the Cubs together.
Robinson came out of prison after 12 years (he was given a life sentance) then he murdered a lady in Huddersfield...he was caught and put in prison again where, if I remember correctly, he died from Cancer aged 62 or 63
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Post by Admin on Mar 21, 2017 14:18:58 GMT
OK
I have adjusted that case.
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Post by liferreilly on Jun 6, 2020 11:30:30 GMT
Thought i'd bump an old thread rather than starting a new one!
Ref: examinerlive.co.uk/whats-on/killers-strike-being-set-free-5044068
The article gives some details of Robinson's second murder. Looks like he killed his nephew's wife.
It also states he died in prison in May 1980. Though JG Robinson died in Parkhurst on 31/03/80,
according to the deaths in custody list.
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Post by Admin on Jun 6, 2020 12:15:32 GMT
I was looking at this today and its quite a puzzler as I was trying to trace this case: www.blackkalendar.nl/c/13158/Mr%20RobinsonHowever, I made no notes on it and the source, Court News UK had changed its structure since then. In short, I don't know what the 'revenge' was, but I sort of remember reading it. However, If it was 13 years later, then it would be 1990, which makes sense, for Court News UK coveres that time, and so who was 'Mr Robinson'. I looked it up on the British Newspaper Archive and found, I think, that the murderer John George Robinson: Daily Mirror - Tuesday 05 October 1976 It says that Mary Batty was murdered in front of her 4-year-old boy, and the Court News UK entry stated, way back before they changed, that this 'person' who I have no record of, had 'tracked down his mothers murderer' 13 years later. That would be 1990 if it was was Mary Batty and would make sense if he tracked him down in revenge after he saw him murder his mother. However, that does not work if he died in Parkhurst on 31/03/80. I sort of left it there as it was not a priority, I was just browsing and thought I would tidy that up. If he did die, then who was Mr Robinson who killed his wife? presumably Mrs Robinson, in 1977 (or 1976) in front of her son? That was what I was searching for and found John George Robinson and I would be surprised if there was another case matching that description. It would be surprising if John George Robinson was released in 1980, but not 1990, and that might also make sense. John George Robinson released, son, aged 21 seeks him out. Probably shouted rude things at him through his letter box. I don't know why he would be at the Old Bailey? HOWEVER: THe Deaths in custody does have JG Robinson having died in 1980 as described: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/493975/deaths-in-custody-table.pdfRobinson JG Male 50 31/03/1980 IoW: ParkhurstNatural Cause Maybe it was a case of mistaken identity? |
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Post by sportstergirl on Jun 7, 2020 7:30:48 GMT
Roachpole4 I'm sorry for your friend.John Robinson did die in custody in 1980 in his late 40s/early50s. Mary Batty was his nephew Thomas Batty's girlfriend then wife & Robinson became obsessed with her when she visited him in prison with Thomas in the late 60s & early 70s. By the time he was inexplicably released in May 1976 Thomas & Mary had split up & found new partners. Thomas had left the home in Whiteacre Close, Deighton & moved to Goldcar.Mary & 4 year old son David continued to live there. John Robinson was living in Wakefield & spent the weekends visiting his nephew & frequently stayed with Mary & David.
It was a brutal murder where Robinson had strangled & mutilated pregnant Mary & cut body parts out & put them in a plastic bag & dumped them under a hedge nearby. He was on the run for around 2 weeks I think. I also heard he broke a barman's nose for short changing him in a Huddersfield pub.
I'd be very interested to find John Robinson's whereabouts prior to 1962's murder of Clive Jones. He lived in the Durham area as a boy & spent his national service as a soldier in Africa & Korea. After this he worked as a lorry driver travelling the length & breadth of the UK, could he be responsiblefor the unsolved murdersof the Sheasby children in Bristol in 1957? Robinson was married & had children.
I believe Clive Jones wasn't Robinson's first murder. There's not a lot of information on him unfortunately
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Post by liferreilly on Jun 7, 2020 12:47:14 GMT
Hi sportstergirl, I had the exact thoughts. He was in his early 30s when he killed Clive Jones. Committed two brutal murders
either side of his sentence. I'd wager anything CJ wasn't his first.
Didn't know he'd been a lorry driver. Scary to think what he could've been responsible for.
I've not heard of the Sheasby children case. Will do some reading on it.
Thanks for the additional info.
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Post by sportstergirl on Jun 7, 2020 20:02:46 GMT
I'm having a look at unsolved murders in the north east in the late 40s/early 50s which could be linked to Robinson when he was teenager or early 20s. He was a Korean war veteran so I'm looking at late 1953/early 54 for his next murders when he would be in his early 20s. Given that he was a lorry driver & his very different victims it's going to take a while! There's not much out there about him but I do remember reading of the Mary Batty murder at the time. I womder if he killed while on the run?
The only previous conviction I know of was he was on bail for burglary at the time of Clive Jones murder.
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Post by historian on Jun 8, 2020 11:20:42 GMT
As he was born in 1929 and died aged 62/63 then clearly he died around 1990/91. Forum press wrote his story in their magazine Master Detective dated August 2001.
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Post by sportstergirl on Jun 8, 2020 20:52:15 GMT
Yorkshire multiple murders has him dying in 1980 at 50. It's a pretty common name so could be another John Robinson
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Post by historian on Jun 9, 2020 10:09:35 GMT
Yes there are numerous Robinsons who have committed murder over the past centuries. There was a Robinson (G) who died in 1980 aged 50.
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Post by sportstergirl on Jun 9, 2020 19:31:57 GMT
I'm pretty sure that's him. The Master Detective magazine has his ugly mug on the cover, not often a photo chills me but you can see the evil coming off him!
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Post by historian on Jun 10, 2020 8:16:11 GMT
I have a report on John George Robinson that states his death as being aged 62/63 in 1990/91 which I used to update my database. I will endeavour to dig this out as it was an official notification. I will get to the bottom of this so that I can confirm or edit my database.
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Post by sportstergirl on Jun 10, 2020 10:46:52 GMT
John George Robinson was married with children, his wife gave birth to a son shortly before he killed Clive Jones. I doubt anyone will admit to being related to this monster. In July 1977 the JG Robinson who killed Mary Batty was in prison, he would die in 1980. It's looking like we have 2 JG Robinsons, one who killed in 1962 & 1976 & the other in 1977. I've asked on a true crime page but no luck so far
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Post by historian on Jun 10, 2020 11:39:59 GMT
My database covers all UK murders from 1800 to present day. There was a G Robinson (not JG) who died in 1980 and this is what confuses me. I am trawling through my records to find an answer to this.
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Post by Admin on Jun 10, 2020 14:29:05 GMT
My database covers all UK murders from 1800 to present day. There was a G Robinson (not JG) who died in 1980 and this is what confuses me. I am trawling through my records to find an answer to this. Yes, I think this touches on what I was referring to, only the Mr Robinson I was reffering to appears to have been alive around 1990. www.blackkalendar.nl/c/13158/Mr%20Robinson |
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