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liferreilly
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Flat of Horrors Nov 9, 2020 21:03:06 GMT

Post by liferreilly on Nov 9, 2020 21:03:06 GMT

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-54781349

I was recently reading this story and noticed you'd added it to the site.
An awful murder. Hope they throw the key away on the scumbags.

Just a few points about the article. They seem to be drawing a link between horror films/
serial killer books and sick people who commit murder. Look at the photograph of the killer's
books - True Crime, Serial killers etc. I was thinking, I bet most people that post on here have
got more crime books than that. God knows how they'd portray me, if they saw my bookshelf!
If James Ellroy saw that photograph he'd probably have a good laugh.

Plus the association of horror films, with murder is ridiculous. I think it's just as arbitrary as saying
the killer had "Barry Manilow records"
When James Bulger was murdered, Child's play 3 was banned. Poor Chucky is named and shamed again
in this BBC article.

In the 80s, there was the Video recordings act, which banned dozens of what were termed "video nasties"
Horror films that would corrupt the public so much, only Lord Longford and Mary Whitehouse ever got to see
them. You can see a load of them on youtube now. Not that you'd want to. I'm a big fan of horror films, but a
lot of them are just poorly made garbage.
Can't believe the media still try and make an association.

I'm no Ripperologist, but seem to remember reading that the police treated an actor, as a suspect.
He'd been in a nearby production of Jekyll and Hyde I think it was. Back before they blamed films, they
blamed theatre!

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Flat of Horrors Nov 9, 2020 22:50:26 GMT

Post by liferreilly on Nov 9, 2020 22:50:26 GMT

He had a figure/statue of Chucky. On his bookshelf he also had a little statue of Tom (from Tom and Jerry)
How violent is that cartoon cat? He's always running around trying to maim/murder that little mouse, with all
types of weapons at hand!

I think films can influence a murder eg When Michael Ryan was on the rampage in Hungerford, the press stated
that he was obsessed with Rambo. But the film didn't make him do it. Something in his head switched and he decided
to. However he dressed is not that relevant to me.

Ian Brady wanted to commit the perfect murder. He was influenced by the film Compulsion, which was about the Leopold and Loeb case.
Had Brady never seen that film, he'd still have a sick and cold mind. Something else would've triggered it.

Geoffrey Jones was the photographer weirdo. A paraphiliac. Think they become so far removed from human empathy, they fixate on
inanimate objects and bizarre rituals. Would like to be a fly on the wall at his psychiatrist meetings. Be interesting to know
how his cruel, cold fantasies and fixations started.

I completely agree with your one-punch killer opinion. There are lots of cases like that. A bully attacks someone (usually someone
they see as weaker) they end up dead. They get a manslaughter charge or less. Out after a few years.

If it were up to me all violent crimes would receive very long sentences.

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Flat of Horrors Nov 9, 2020 23:05:28 GMT

Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2020 23:05:28 GMT

Obviouslly I deleted my post. (i have a copy though, I just went back upstairs and it was still open on this thread)

Im like that. I type something and post and then read it and think, hhm, nah, delete.

I disagree that Ian Brady would have killed regardless of whether he saw 'Compulsion'. I am not saying its the direct cause, but I beleive in the butterfly effect.

In a parrel universe he could have been a normal peple. The inference of course is that many normal people, could well have otherwise been killers. People who, had the butterfly not done its thing, would be in prison now and cases were have never heard of (because they didn't happen) would be well known.

Yes, violence is key and it needs to be dealt with in the harshest way, far more tan it is. Unfortunalty violence is mostly accepted in society. Violent people are dangeous and can kill. I would like to see all voilent people given social workers that vist them once a month wearing wooly jumprers to ask how they 'feel'. Especially on a Friday night before they go out to drink 100 pints of beer.

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Admin Administrator Posts: 393	Flat of Horrors Nov 9, 2020 23:14:25 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2020 23:14:25 GMT I think the thing I get from the pictures is how messy his house was. It was messy. Like mine. Maybe thats a sign?

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Flat of Horrors Nov 9, 2020 23:39:21 GMT

Post by liferreilly on Nov 9, 2020 23:39:21 GMT

Thanks for the addition.
People might've thought i was having a conversation with myself. Which we all do, everyday
in our heads. Just not on discussion forums

I would ask the question why do people not commit violent crimes and murder? Empathy: respect for life:
obeying law and order etc a lot of those qualities are missing in violent offenders. Can they really be restored?
Non violence should be a human right. We should all demand it. Lock them away if need be.

I agree that violence is accepted in society. We see political messages everywhere, say no to homophobia, racism etc
Why don't they just promote "no violence" everywhere? Surely all the "isms" and "phobias" are just a by-product of violence anyway?
We stopped all violence, all the other negative stuff would disappear along with it.

I suppose countries use state sanctioned violence every day. Arms industry is big money. Sadly, i think killing has always been in
some humans interest.

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Flat of Horrors Nov 9, 2020 23:57:31 GMT

Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2020 23:57:31 GMT

we dont see violent crime in everyone partly because the natural state of a person is at rest. its not as simple as that but if you consider animal pscholgy the pattern is similar. to break that barrier you need heightend energy, like hunger, sex or other instincts. imo of course. most people have these instincts controlled. hence drugs and crime, drugs effect pyshiological energised states, like passion. this is root i think. its not natural without energy to leave the state of rest. most people go about in a state of rest and so dont rape, kill or steel. i think.

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