Its an interesting question. I recall a few reports where prisoners have died that show they were in for a long time. None spring to mind, but the thing that I noted was that they were not major household names, but instead were sentenced for manslaughter, or attempted murder, but never got out.
I could run a bit of code to try and figure it out but mostly its just a manual process as most entries dont have the release noted.
Looking at the wholelife tarrifs suggests that Malcom Green has been in since 1971, 49 years:
Douglas Smith appealed to the European Commission of Human Rights on 10th September 1997 (application no 29467/95) The download can be found online. Douglas Leslie Smith v The United Kingdom Excerpts from it below:
"THE FACTS: Particular circumstances of the case. The applicant was convicted in 1966 of the manslaughter of a nine year old boy, whom he strangled and then sexually abused. The applicant was initially detained under sections 60 and 65 of the Mental Health act 1959, by the Liverpool Assizes on 28th January 1966. On 25th November 1983 the applicant received a conditional discharge by a Mental Health Review Tribunal. On discharge he went to live with his parents and after a short period moved to an independent flat where he was supervised by a probation officer. During this period he developed a friendship with some boys. There was no evidence of sexual misconduct by the applicant, however the fact the applicant had concealed his friendship from those charged with his care and supervision, was deemed sufficiently serious for the Home Office to recall the applicant on 13th November 1984..... .....Sadly there is no change from the position addressed by the Tribunal in 1995. We are extremely disturbed at the lack of insight shown by the patient. He does not accept that he requires treatment to deal with his sexual attraction to young boys"
Looks like he was released for almost a year in 83-84.Frightening to think the review board deemed him fit for release. Let's hope he's still inside.
I'd read about the Hansons case, but didn't know of his whereabouts. After a quick search the above link states he died in November 2008. I've just checked the Deaths in Custody list. It states Michael Joseph Hanson died on 15th November 2008 in Holme House aged 63.
The Link below states that Carol Hanson did die in 1997
Sorry about the mistake with the Hansons. Peter Bastin,a nasty piece of work who killed a young boy in the 70s has been inside since 1979 apart from a short period when he escaped in 2009 & was recaptured in Blackpool. Blackpool murderer & paedophile Peter Chester, aka Peter Speakman has been in prison since 1978 for raping & strangling his niece. He was originally sentenced to 20 years but remains in prison today as he is still deemed a danger to children
No need for apologies. I didn't know if the Hansons were dead or alive till i looked it up!
Peter Bastin and Peter Chester (Speakman) are two revolting sub-humans. Speakman actually campaigned to try and get prisoners the right to vote. Thankfully he was unsuccessful. The only choice i'd let him vote on, is whether he wanted the rope or an injection! I don't think those type of people can or do ever change. Let's hope they rot inside for a lot longer.
Keith William Ridley might not have been released. 1969
I had a look at the deaths-in-custody/ kick-the-bucket list. Couldn't see Ridley on it. Hopefully he's still inside. He should be. Though knowing how some of the parole/review boards work, I wouldn't be one hundred percent confident.
Wardley has done almost 55 years then. Similar to the Harry Roberts case, in that they both killed policemen in 1965 and 66. Yet Roberts has been out over five years I think and his case was far more notorious. I'd never heard of the Wardley case before you mentioned it.
Admin's prediction that there'd be a lifer from around 1966, still inside, was quite accurate.
Post by matthewspicer on Jul 17, 2020 17:01:22 GMT
Yes with Webb and Wardley the length was not really the actual murder - they would have been way past the minimums - even with Wardley killing a policeman - that's why some of these really long sentences are by people no-one has ever heard off ....
Also there may be Lifers from Manslaughter on the grounds of Diminished Responsibility before 1966; and as to people found insane it is just possible there may be some still detained from the 1950s ....